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	<title>Comments on: why vTiger sucks</title>
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	<description>Web development &#38; web design</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Invoice</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-9548</link>
		<dc:creator>Invoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, is anyone able to import Invoice successfully to vtiger?

I'd imported the invoice in csv into the database. But it does not get displayed in the Invoice module.

Help is appreciated.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, is anyone able to import Invoice successfully to vtiger?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imported the invoice in csv into the database. But it does not get displayed in the Invoice module.</p>
<p>Help is appreciated.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-7972</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip regarding speeding things up.

Using some bash scripting and the search/replace power of vim, I was able to get all the separate english language files concatenated into 1 "more manageable" language file.

But now that I have dug deeply into their PHP code, I am absolutely astounded.  I am absolutely astounded human beings maintain this code.  The cascading if/else statements go deeper than a hole to China.  Single lines of code word wrap in my vim editor 7 TIMES.  These developers should never be allowed to touch a keyboard again.

Had to vent.  There's a good chance I'm gonna scrap this thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip regarding speeding things up.</p>
<p>Using some bash scripting and the search/replace power of vim, I was able to get all the separate english language files concatenated into 1 &#8220;more manageable&#8221; language file.</p>
<p>But now that I have dug deeply into their PHP code, I am absolutely astounded.  I am absolutely astounded human beings maintain this code.  The cascading if/else statements go deeper than a hole to China.  Single lines of code word wrap in my vim editor 7 TIMES.  These developers should never be allowed to touch a keyboard again.</p>
<p>Had to vent.  There&#8217;s a good chance I&#8217;m gonna scrap this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hambach</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-7723</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hambach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah... good luck with that Cornelius... we stripped the whole language thing out of vTiger since it was so frustrating and built in our own... But believe me, you'll have a load of work stripping it out :(

If you want to improve the speed of vTiger, have a look here:
http://www.rdlt.com/vtiger-slow-accountproducts-popup.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah&#8230; good luck with that Cornelius&#8230; we stripped the whole language thing out of vTiger since it was so frustrating and built in our own&#8230; But believe me, you&#8217;ll have a load of work stripping it out <img src='http://www.rdlt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you want to improve the speed of vTiger, have a look here:<br />
<a href="http://www.rdlt.com/vtiger-slow-accountproducts-popup.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rdlt.com/vtiger-slow-accountproducts-popup.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-7606</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm attempting to hack version 5.0.4, and the coding standards are very poor.

There's a separate language file PER MODULE.  Simply searching and adding new phrases is a pain in the arse.

The database design is nasty.  312 tables?  With mixed naming conventions? And cascading deletes?  Seriously?  I've gone cross eyed.

The app does its job - but is very slow even with a minimal amount of records.

I love open source and do appreciate the work that went into this app.  I'm just saying it ain't easy to work with this app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m attempting to hack version 5.0.4, and the coding standards are very poor.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a separate language file PER MODULE.  Simply searching and adding new phrases is a pain in the arse.</p>
<p>The database design is nasty.  312 tables?  With mixed naming conventions? And cascading deletes?  Seriously?  I&#8217;ve gone cross eyed.</p>
<p>The app does its job - but is very slow even with a minimal amount of records.</p>
<p>I love open source and do appreciate the work that went into this app.  I&#8217;m just saying it ain&#8217;t easy to work with this app.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-7373</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article, I am checking out vTiger as a solution for my web development customers.  The article points out a few good issues.   I'm also working on a few new themes for vTiger so will keep you posted. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, I am checking out vTiger as a solution for my web development customers.  The article points out a few good issues.   I&#8217;m also working on a few new themes for vTiger so will keep you posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Enns</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-2896</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Enns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to thank the vtiger team for all their work in maintaining a 100% open-source project.

Does it have rough edges? Yes. But it is by far the best open source CRM tool available. Perhaps if we contributed to documentation as a community it would get better, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to thank the vtiger team for all their work in maintaining a 100% open-source project.</p>
<p>Does it have rough edges? Yes. But it is by far the best open source CRM tool available. Perhaps if we contributed to documentation as a community it would get better, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioned Softed theme.

Backlink added  ;)

Lukas N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioned Softed theme.</p>
<p>Backlink added  <img src='http://www.rdlt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lukas N</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. vtiger kind of sucks. It took us forever to figure out some issues. Like the AD authentication, all the documentation (really just forum posts) keep talking about a patch. It is not until you find out for yourself, that the AD authentication functionality is actually built-into the latest version. But the vtiger team failed to make this easily available as a feature, or spec. 
you are 120% right, their documentation sucks. 

With that said, the system is a powerful system, I'm just concerned with its enterprise-ready status...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. vtiger kind of sucks. It took us forever to figure out some issues. Like the AD authentication, all the documentation (really just forum posts) keep talking about a patch. It is not until you find out for yourself, that the AD authentication functionality is actually built-into the latest version. But the vtiger team failed to make this easily available as a feature, or spec.<br />
you are 120% right, their documentation sucks. </p>
<p>With that said, the system is a powerful system, I&#8217;m just concerned with its enterprise-ready status&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sreenivas Kanumuru</title>
		<link>http://www.rdlt.com/why-vtiger-sucks.html#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Sreenivas Kanumuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, thanks for the valuable feedback. We agree that the documentation and coding are not upto the standard and are making efforts to improve on it. We'll be attending to some of the other issues as well in the upcoming releases. 

thanks,
Sreenivas Kanumuru
vtiger Team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, thanks for the valuable feedback. We agree that the documentation and coding are not upto the standard and are making efforts to improve on it. We&#8217;ll be attending to some of the other issues as well in the upcoming releases. </p>
<p>thanks,<br />
Sreenivas Kanumuru<br />
vtiger Team</p>
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